Renewed push to lift ban on GMO crops in Guanacaste municipalities

I have some very bad news AIdan. Organic farmers grow monocrops. Also, there is no such thing as a “super” weed. Weeds adapt; they don’t develop superpowers… except maybe in comic books.

My goodness Aidan. Germs and weeds don’t develop superpowers. They develop an adapted resistance to certain substances. So when a weed, for instance, develops a resistance to Roundup, you can spray it with another herbicide, or till it mechanically. The weed is not stronger; it is merely resistant to one herbicide.
Once again, no superpowers. It’s called adaptation.
So please just sit back and watch as Roundup-resistant weeds puts all the chemical companies out of business. It’s almost as if you’re trying to warn the folks at Monsanto!

Oh, the horror!

Using 2,4-D, which is available to consumers in every home improvement box store and hardware store!

Cheap shot. Par for the course in these debates.

Good! Now go away.

Why? You want to sell some? You first. Let’s hear you.

Where did you get those statistics? Monsanto?

Well quick, protect yourself. Eat some DDT.

This public health use of small amounts of DDT is permitted under the Stockholm Convention. Large-scale agriculture let to the evolution of resistant mosquitoes in many regions. So many of these deaths from malaria turn out to a result of pesticide corporation greed, e.g. Monsanto. You, of course, want to blame it on hippies misunderstanding Rachel Carson.

You’re hilarious DoubleCheck! Not sure if you mean to be. But you are.

Exactly. Popoff has a different style, but is just as bad.

CycloneFarms threw out another “comment” in response to this to prove your point.

2,4-D is a very toxic herbicide. It is a reproductive toxicant, suspected endocrine disruptor and probable carcinogen. Children are particularly susceptible to its effects.
2,4-D is much more harmful to plant life than RoundUp (glyphosate). Specialty crops (like grapes, tomatoes, beans and sweet corn) and non-GE soy and cotton are extremely sensitive to 2,4-D.

2,4-D does and will drift off of target crops. Both spray drift and volatilization drift can devastate adjacent ecosystems and entire landscapes. Such damage poses a very real threat to rural economies and farmers growing non-2,4-D-resistant crops. Conventional farmers will lose crops, while organic farmers will lose both crops and certification, resulting in an economic unraveling of already-stressed rural communities.
2,4-D-resistant “superweeds” will arise and spread. RoundUp-resistant “superweeds” have taken over farms and countryside in the Midwest and Southeast, and widespread use of 2,4-D will spur more of the same.
Genetic material from 2,4-D corn will contaminate non-GE corn. Corn is wind-pollinated which means contamination is inevitable. You cannot put a GE genie back in the bottle.

Usual nonsequitur from the Popoff.

So you’re blaming your condition on copper sulfate now?

The more you post, the more you make it clear you know nothing about agriculture.

EPA considers 2,4-D to be low toxicity. There are forms of 2,4-D used to control aquatic vegetation. What does that tell you about toxicity?

“2,4-D is much more harmful to plant life than RoundUp (glyphosate).”

Hilarious! Spray your yard with 2,4-D and it will kill most of the broadleaf weeds, but not harm the grass.

Your comments about drift damage are overblown, too.

Try learning about the subject before you copy and paste garbage from the Pesticide Panic Network.

I’m beginning to think “DoubleCheck” is another way of saying “cheap shot.”

Precisely….
No wait! D-oh!
Ah, you got me DoubleCheck. Nice one!

PANNA, aka The Pesticide Panic Network, is an agenda driven activist organization. They are not any kind of “resource”.

You don’t understand biology or chemistry Aidan.
Once again, organisms do not become stronger, and the substances used to kill them do not need to become “harsher.”
Organisms simply adapt, and different substances will kill them.

Yes Harsher.
The next generation DOW’s 2,4-D Enlist GMO:

2,4-D is a very toxic herbicide. It is a reproductive toxicant, suspected endocrine disruptor and probable carcinogen. Children are particularly susceptible to its effects.

2,4-D is much more harmful to plant life than RoundUp (glyphosate). Specialty crops (like grapes, tomatoes, beans and sweet corn) and non-GE soy and cotton are extremely sensitive to 2,4-D.

2,4-D does and will drift off of target crops. Both spray drift and volatilization drift can devastate adjacent ecosystems and entire landscapes. Such damage poses a very real threat to rural economies and farmers growing non-2,4-D-resistant crops. Conventional farmers will lose crops, while organic farmers will lose both crops and certification, resulting in an economic unraveling of already-stressed rural communities.

2,4-D-resistant “superweeds” will arise and spread. RoundUp-resistant “superweeds” have taken over farms and countryside in the Midwest and Southeast, and widespread use of 2,4-D will spur more of the same.
Genetic material from 2,4-D corn will contaminate non-GE corn. Corn is wind-pollinated which means contamination is inevitable. You cannot put a GE genie back in the bottle.

http://www.panna.org/current-campaigns/24D

“so corn pollen blowing into a neighboring property is very unlikely”

Have you been watching the tornado’s ripping through the center of this country for the past two years? There’s no way you can say pollen won’t drift.

More Hilarious biotech logic.

“Superweeds” only exist in the minds of those whose agricultural knowledge is nil.

i want my food to be the way it is supposed to be — as nature intended it, not some genetically modified science experiment that has who knows what longterm consequences. you must get paid a lot of money to spread this b.s. around, but those of us who have done the research are not buying it for one second.

none of those things have been GMOd. your comment is baseless. and you are just a troll. buh-bye.

You’ve made it clear that you have zero understanding of the subject.

Look out CycloneFarms! DoubleCheck is going to start hurling insults at you now! Protect your feelings!

Waaaaa…

@Guest I also “want my food to be the way it is supposed to be — as nature intended it, not some genetically modified science experiment”

If you read the beginning of the thread I am responding to a comment by a pro GMO poster Micha Popoff

I’ve already responded to your disinformation and you just doubled down. You’re a low level professional working for Heartland Institute and its clients, and everyone should know that talking with you is a waste of time.

Again, fabricated presumptions about how other people think. What a pop off!

I found this:

Monsanto employees and government regulatory agencies employees are the same people

http://purefood.org/Monsanto/revolvedoor.cfm

Another Monsanto man in a key USDA post? Obama’s ag policy’s giving me whiplash

http://grist.org/article/2009-09-24-usda-obama-monsanto-organic/

Here’s some more about the above Beachy:

“On its short list of “partners” we find several research-oriented universities and one corporation: Monsanto. In the Danforth Center’s 2007 annual report (PDF), Monsanto is mentioned no fewer than ten times funding this or that project.

So essentially, the public face of Monsanto’s research efforts now
has his fingers on the USDA’s research purse strings. Score a big one for agribusiness!”

Actually, Monsanto is acting as a corporation is supposed to act by law. That’s pretty scary, isn’t it.

Which ones of those bother you.

Which ones the most? Or don’t you know of any?

That’s okay, if you don’t know of any organic or environmental corporations. Just admit it. I’ll forgive you for saying, “All of’em.”

Okay, Pepsi (which owns Naked Juice), J&J Snack Foods, Nestle, Hillshire
Brands (formerly Sara Lee), ConAgra, Coca-Cola and Miller-Coors is a partial list. I hate those corporations also for buying organic companies and contaminating them with their own foulness.

You want to attack for subverting democracy and the economy? And organic foods? I’ll feed you all the information you want for bullets.

surely you jest. isn’t that very contamination the subject of lawsuits? jesus h. — stop spreading lies.

You do realize we are in Costa Rica, right? Just checking.

I’m being serious when I ask if you realize that this news site, Inside Costa Rica, is based in – Costa Rica. An independent republic located between Nicaragua and Panama.

I must ask this because only people living in the U.S. make statements like “laughed them out of court” without specifying in *what country.*

Laughed them out of a U.S. court? A Spanish court? A French court? Most relevant, a *Costa Rica* court?

As a newspaper editor i try to stay neutral on most issues including this one.

But if you and your enemies are going to have a comment battle here in Inside Costa Rica, you should understand that you are on a site from Costa Rica. So when you make statements, generalizations, case history, etc. – put them in context of the country you are talking about, please.

He was too busy pushing the GMO interests of Heartland Institute.

In regard to protecting the laws Costa Rico against corporate bullying, Costa Rico isn’t a part of any so-called “free trade” group or negotiation like NAFTA or TPP, right? Please stay that way.

So sorry. Thanks for correcting this poor gringo.

CAFTA – Costa Rica, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicararua, and Domincan Republic.

That sounds scary, if the protection of corporate rights and profits and remedy by business courts is similar to those of NAFTA.

You might want to investigate whether you country would be wise to stay under the same agreement.

Are there any lawsuits pending between the GMO and organic sectors in Costa Rica?