<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Security minister calls for immediate action against organized crime as death toll mounts</title> <atom:link href="https://insidecostarica.com/2015/10/14/security-minister-calls-immediate-action-organized-crime-death-toll-mounts/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2015/10/14/security-minister-calls-immediate-action-organized-crime-death-toll-mounts/</link> <description>Costa Rica&#039;s Leading English Language News Source</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 04:55:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.2</generator> <item><title>By: duke ster</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2015/10/14/security-minister-calls-immediate-action-organized-crime-death-toll-mounts/#comment-12678</link> <dc:creator>duke ster</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:20:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=19564#comment-12678</guid> <description><![CDATA[FDR was not a Muslim . Islam says to kill all who will not accept Islam. Do you think Obama will not establish Sharia law?  Read the Koran if you are ignorant of Islam&#039;s intent and laws. Read the parts where it says to kill all who don&#039;t accept Islam. What do you think &quot;Put to the sword&quot; means? You are somehow missing the elephant in the room by talking about corporate this and that--Are you blind? Islam, Muslims --will kill you unless you accept Islam.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FDR was not a Muslim . Islam says to kill all who will not accept Islam. Do you think Obama will not establish Sharia law?  Read the Koran if you are ignorant of Islam&#8217;s intent and laws. Read the parts where it says to kill all who don&#8217;t accept Islam. What do you think &#8220;Put to the sword&#8221; means? You are somehow missing the elephant in the room by talking about corporate this and that&#8211;Are you blind? Islam, Muslims &#8211;will kill you unless you accept Islam.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: duke ster</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2015/10/14/security-minister-calls-immediate-action-organized-crime-death-toll-mounts/#comment-12677</link> <dc:creator>duke ster</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=19564#comment-12677</guid> <description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t overlook the fact that Obama is Muslim and just &quot;executive decreed himself a 3rd term and outlawed pork in the prisons AND will establish Sharia law -1st in USA and after the whole world-which decrees execution by beheading, all those who refuse Islam. This is by the way, the &quot;mark of the beast&quot; described in the Bible in the book of Revelations.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t overlook the fact that Obama is Muslim and just &#8220;executive decreed himself a 3rd term and outlawed pork in the prisons AND will establish Sharia law -1st in USA and after the whole world-which decrees execution by beheading, all those who refuse Islam. This is by the way, the &#8220;mark of the beast&#8221; described in the Bible in the book of Revelations.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SDPUS</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2015/10/14/security-minister-calls-immediate-action-organized-crime-death-toll-mounts/#comment-12664</link> <dc:creator>SDPUS</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=19564#comment-12664</guid> <description><![CDATA[A third term is not unprecedented. FDR was an extremely wealthy man who looked out for all citizens. That is what is missing today. And coincidentally, our economy was in a similar situation (1929 &amp; 2008). You obviously don&#039;t like Obama, but it would be dishonest to not recognize the economic turn around. Now the next President must continue the process, and tame the corporate billionaires. The tax system can easily do just that. Billionaires and corporations need to pay a lot more!! 94% of the USA economy are salaried or hourly workers. 6% are entrepreneurs. We need a more family oriented culture. And to do that, we need to diminish the inequities, such as bankruptcy laws. Donald trump can go bankrupt 4 times and never seemingly suffer. Citizens cant even discharge student loans. The federal courts have been stacked since the Reagan revolution. Supply side economics (Trickle Down) simply don&#039;t work.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A third term is not unprecedented. FDR was an extremely wealthy man who looked out for all citizens. That is what is missing today. And coincidentally, our economy was in a similar situation (1929 &amp; 2008). You obviously don&#8217;t like Obama, but it would be dishonest to not recognize the economic turn around. Now the next President must continue the process, and tame the corporate billionaires. The tax system can easily do just that. Billionaires and corporations need to pay a lot more!! 94% of the USA economy are salaried or hourly workers. 6% are entrepreneurs. We need a more family oriented culture. And to do that, we need to diminish the inequities, such as bankruptcy laws. Donald trump can go bankrupt 4 times and never seemingly suffer. Citizens cant even discharge student loans. The federal courts have been stacked since the Reagan revolution. Supply side economics (Trickle Down) simply don&#8217;t work.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ben</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2015/10/14/security-minister-calls-immediate-action-organized-crime-death-toll-mounts/#comment-12663</link> <dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2015 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=19564#comment-12663</guid> <description><![CDATA[I live in Costa Rica for 4 months and live for 8 months in Panama. Next years i plan to spend more time in Panama. My home in Costa Rica is very small in the mountians away from everyone now. Costa Rica goverment does not work together at all so expect thing to get really nuts.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Costa Rica for 4 months and live for 8 months in Panama. Next years i plan to spend more time in Panama. My home in Costa Rica is very small in the mountians away from everyone now. Costa Rica goverment does not work together at all so expect thing to get really nuts.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: duke ster</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2015/10/14/security-minister-calls-immediate-action-organized-crime-death-toll-mounts/#comment-12657</link> <dc:creator>duke ster</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=19564#comment-12657</guid> <description><![CDATA[A little off topic in a way--The new Muslim Dictator Obama has issued a new decree- -No it&#039;s not to behead all who won&#039;t accept the &quot;Mark of the Beast&quot; ( meaning Islam),not yet anyway. He has issued a new decree that all pork will now and henceforth be eliminated from ALL prison menu&#039;s. What decree will he issue next? He will declare that ONLY HE is capable of handling the new scary emergency which has befallen the land ( who knows what it will be but it WILL be HUGE, you can bet on that! There fore He will seek to stay in office and begin an unprecedented 3rd term, and of course the 4th and 5th and so on.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little off topic in a way&#8211;The new Muslim Dictator Obama has issued a new decree-<br /> -No it&#8217;s not to behead all who won&#8217;t accept the &#8220;Mark of the Beast&#8221; ( meaning Islam),not yet anyway.<br /> He has issued a new decree that all pork will now and henceforth be eliminated from ALL prison menu&#8217;s.<br /> What decree will he issue next?<br /> He<br /> will declare that ONLY HE is capable of handling the new scary<br /> emergency which has befallen the land ( who knows what it will be but it<br /> WILL be HUGE, you can bet on that!<br /> There fore He will seek to stay in office and begin an unprecedented 3rd term, and of course the 4th and 5th and so on.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: disgusted</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2015/10/14/security-minister-calls-immediate-action-organized-crime-death-toll-mounts/#comment-12649</link> <dc:creator>disgusted</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:21:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=19564#comment-12649</guid> <description><![CDATA[So Ben,  I guess you&#039;re leaving as well.  Another thing  a policeman here said  to me when they arrest  those committing crime  the judges just release them back onto the streets.   Why should I risk my life for nothing.  Was there not article a while back that criminal element has infiltrated into the government here&gt; ?  I been searching for it without any luck.  Arresting this Italian cocaine mafia yesterday they got 6 month preventive detention. Now we will see how quickly they get a pass on this or released and poof they are gone.This comes at a time when the tourism trying to jinn up CR as a eco friendly country.  It is scary for all of us especially now Security minister, Gustavo Mata says it is going to get worse unless  all departments work together.  And the police are out gunned for sure.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Ben,  I guess you&#8217;re leaving as well.  Another thing  a policeman here said  to me when they arrest  those committing crime  the judges just release them back onto the streets.   Why should I risk my life for nothing.  Was there not article a while back that criminal element has infiltrated into the government here&gt; ?  I been searching for it without any luck.  Arresting this Italian cocaine mafia yesterday they got 6 month preventive detention. Now we will see how quickly they get a pass on this or released and poof they are gone.</p><p>This comes at a time when the tourism trying to jinn up CR as a eco friendly country.  It is scary for all of us especially now Security minister, Gustavo Mata says it is going to get worse unless  all departments work together.  And the police are out gunned for sure.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SDPUS</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2015/10/14/security-minister-calls-immediate-action-organized-crime-death-toll-mounts/#comment-12647</link> <dc:creator>SDPUS</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2015 02:13:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=19564#comment-12647</guid> <description><![CDATA[Most reports indicate that the middle class has flourished in Latin America (especially Costa Rica) over the last few decades. Considering the strength of unions and their bloated pay within CR, I would think that too indicates a stronger middle class. I do agree with your point on the growth of the corruption class. I would be willing to bet this is more due to the proximity of Costa Rica in a burgeoning drug trade. It is inevitable that a black market commodity of such value is going to corrupt any nation, be it first world or developing. The ONLY answer is complete legalization. Do you want to live in a society that is a blood bath, because that is what happens. Colombia and Mexico and any inner city in USA certainly indicate that is what happens. If Mata gets all he wants, it might sound good to the people, but you can guarantee one thing. There will be more blood in the streets. The ONLY way to win this, is to devalue and regulate the commodity. Legalization is the only way to do that. Otherwise, the cartels will forever corrupt. The money is just too great. Colorado is the epitome of success with what they have done with marijuana. It is time to wake up people. Look at the empirical evidence. It is very clear. Empowering the police is the wrong strategy. They already have the tools, it is time for them to get a real strategy. Remove every corrupt government employee. All of them!!!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most reports indicate that the middle class has flourished in Latin America (especially Costa Rica) over the last few decades. Considering the strength of unions and their bloated pay within CR, I would think that too indicates a stronger middle class. I do agree with your point on the growth of the corruption class. I would be willing to bet this is more due to the proximity of Costa Rica in a burgeoning drug trade. It is inevitable that a black market commodity of such value is going to corrupt any nation, be it first world or developing. The ONLY answer is complete legalization. Do you want to live in a society that is a blood bath, because that is what happens. Colombia and Mexico and any inner city in USA certainly indicate that is what happens. If Mata gets all he wants, it might sound good to the people, but you can guarantee one thing. There will be more blood in the streets. The ONLY way to win this, is to devalue and regulate the commodity. Legalization is the only way to do that. Otherwise, the cartels will forever corrupt. The money is just too great. Colorado is the epitome of success with what they have done with marijuana. It is time to wake up people. Look at the empirical evidence. It is very clear. Empowering the police is the wrong strategy. They already have the tools, it is time for them to get a real strategy. Remove every corrupt government employee. All of them!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SDPUS</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2015/10/14/security-minister-calls-immediate-action-organized-crime-death-toll-mounts/#comment-12648</link> <dc:creator>SDPUS</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2015 02:13:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=19564#comment-12648</guid> <description><![CDATA[http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2012/11/13/crecimiento-clase-media-america-latina]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2012/11/13/crecimiento-clase-media-america-latina" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2012/11/13/crecimiento-clase-media-america-latina</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ken Morris</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2015/10/14/security-minister-calls-immediate-action-organized-crime-death-toll-mounts/#comment-12646</link> <dc:creator>Ken Morris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2015 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=19564#comment-12646</guid> <description><![CDATA[Fair enough, but I thought I covered this concern.Also, this from a rival publication covering Mata&#039;s presentation:&quot;An analysis as of August found that 145 of  the 370 murders up until then were what he called vengeance or  ajustes de cuentas.. . . Some 202 of the crimes until August or 55 percent of the total, were related to organized crime, he said. The others included 92 as a result of arguments or fights, 42 that took place within family members and 10 as a result of robberies, according to the minister.&quot;If we do the math, we see that 57 of 202 killings attributable to organized crime, about one in four, were of people other than the intended target.However, if we use our heads, we might question whether all of these 57 killed were exactly &quot;innocent bystanders.&quot;  People who hang out with wannabe gang leaders aren&#039;t themselves usually upstanding citizens.True, there ARE innocent people killed, and more of them hurt, and I don&#039;t want to make light of them.  But there are fewer innocents killed this way than there are innocent pedestrians killed by motor vehicles.Neither is acceptable, but maintaining a sense of proportion is important.  It is because we hear calls for a better-armed police force and citizenry to combat this gang violence.Problem is, a 2008 Rand Corporation study found that the NYPD cops miss their targets 70% of the time too, and by some estimates a quarter of all police shootings in the US are of innocent bystanders.  So cop shootings aren&#039;t any more accurate than thug shootings.  (In fact, one study I read showed that the criminals were better shots.)  Are we to expect Tico cops to be better shots than New York&#039;s finest?And this is before we consider the lousy accuracy of armed citizens.  Now there&#039;s a loaded cannon aimed at innocent bystanders, if I can be forgiven for the analogy.While I understand why you or others could have a problem with my first sentence (since I do too), your reservations may relax somewhat if you put it the problem in the context of the alternatives.When the alternatives are more heavily armed police and citizens (see the comments) I&#039;m pretty sure that the results will be the killing of more innocents.  When the alternatives are those Mata wants--longer incarceration of 5000 inmates, easier confiscation of property, and a specialize law enforcement unit--there are also tradeoffs.  Indeed, reading between the lines, I suspect that Mata wants a heavily armed specialized unit under his personal control, a potentially dangerous change.It&#039;s all well and good to be concerned about the innocent victims, and I am too.  My point is just that the cure could very easily become worse than the disease.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, but I thought I covered this concern.</p><p>Also, this from a rival publication covering Mata&#8217;s presentation:</p><p>&#8220;An analysis as of August found that 145<br /> of  the 370 murders up until then were what he called vengeance<br /> or  ajustes de cuentas.. . . Some 202 of the crimes until August or 55 percent of the total, were<br /> related to organized crime, he said. The others included 92 as a result<br /> of arguments or fights, 42 that took place within family members and 10<br /> as a result of robberies, according to the minister.&#8221;</p><p>If we do the math, we see that 57 of 202 killings attributable to organized crime, about one in four, were of people other than the intended target.</p><p>However, if we use our heads, we might question whether all of these 57 killed were exactly &#8220;innocent bystanders.&#8221;  People who hang out with wannabe gang leaders aren&#8217;t themselves usually upstanding citizens.</p><p>True, there ARE innocent people killed, and more of them hurt, and I don&#8217;t want to make light of them.  But there are fewer innocents killed this way than there are innocent pedestrians killed by motor vehicles.</p><p>Neither is acceptable, but maintaining a sense of proportion is important.  It is because we hear calls for a better-armed police force and citizenry to combat this gang violence.</p><p>Problem is, a 2008 Rand Corporation study found that the NYPD cops miss their targets 70% of the time too, and by some estimates a quarter of all police shootings in the US are of innocent bystanders.  So cop shootings aren&#8217;t any more accurate than thug shootings.  (In fact, one study I read showed that the criminals were better shots.)  Are we to expect Tico cops to be better shots than New York&#8217;s finest?</p><p>And this is before we consider the lousy accuracy of armed citizens.  Now there&#8217;s a loaded cannon aimed at innocent bystanders, if I can be forgiven for the analogy.</p><p>While I understand why you or others could have a problem with my first sentence (since I do too), your reservations may relax somewhat if you put it the problem in the context of the alternatives.</p><p>When the alternatives are more heavily armed police and citizens (see the comments) I&#8217;m pretty sure that the results will be the killing of more innocents.  When the alternatives are those Mata wants&#8211;longer incarceration of 5000 inmates, easier confiscation of property, and a specialize law enforcement unit&#8211;there are also tradeoffs.  Indeed, reading between the lines, I suspect that Mata wants a heavily armed specialized unit under his personal control, a potentially dangerous change.</p><p>It&#8217;s all well and good to be concerned about the innocent victims, and I am too.  My point is just that the cure could very easily become worse than the disease.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Timothy Williams</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2015/10/14/security-minister-calls-immediate-action-organized-crime-death-toll-mounts/#comment-12645</link> <dc:creator>Timothy Williams</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2015 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=19564#comment-12645</guid> <description><![CDATA[Your first sentence is a problem, because a LOT of innocent bystanders are getting cought up in the crossfire, including the completely innocent taxi driver in Friday&#039;s incident, and several homes of innocent people that were shot up on Sunday as eight men engaged in a shootout in the middle of a Pavas neighborhood, just to name a few within the last week.I can&#039;t even recall now how many children and innocent bystanders have been hit by stray bullets or cought in the crossfire so far this year, we can&#039;t even report on most of the incidents because we don&#039;t have staff to cover it, but just pick up a copy of Diario Extra and see for yourself (it is sort of their niche, as you well know).  For every one dead so far this year there have been many more wounded, and I would venture to say that nearly half of the wounded were not the intended victim.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your first sentence is a problem, because a LOT of innocent bystanders are getting cought up in the crossfire, including the completely innocent taxi driver in Friday&#8217;s incident, and several homes of innocent people that were shot up on Sunday as eight men engaged in a shootout in the middle of a Pavas neighborhood, just to name a few within the last week.</p><p>I can&#8217;t even recall now how many children and innocent bystanders have been hit by stray bullets or cought in the crossfire so far this year, we can&#8217;t even report on most of the incidents because we don&#8217;t have staff to cover it, but just pick up a copy of Diario Extra and see for yourself (it is sort of their niche, as you well know).  For every one dead so far this year there have been many more wounded, and I would venture to say that nearly half of the wounded were not the intended victim.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>