<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Costa Rica’s black population hindered by less education and professional employment</title> <atom:link href="https://insidecostarica.com/2013/10/30/costa-ricas-black-population-hindered-less-education-professional-employment/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2013/10/30/costa-ricas-black-population-hindered-less-education-professional-employment/</link> <description>Costa Rica&#039;s Leading English Language News Source</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 04:55:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.2</generator> <item><title>By: Pablo Bolaños-Villegas</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2013/10/30/costa-ricas-black-population-hindered-less-education-professional-employment/#comment-5879</link> <dc:creator>Pablo Bolaños-Villegas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 03 Nov 2013 14:47:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=11820#comment-5879</guid> <description><![CDATA[The UCR does have branches in Limon, Turrialba, Grecia, Guanacaste, Puntarenas, and Golfito, The one in Limon even has labs for molecular biology applied to medicine.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UCR does have branches in Limon, Turrialba, Grecia, Guanacaste, Puntarenas, and Golfito, The one in Limon even has labs for molecular biology applied to medicine.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ken Morris</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2013/10/30/costa-ricas-black-population-hindered-less-education-professional-employment/#comment-5858</link> <dc:creator>Ken Morris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:34:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=11820#comment-5858</guid> <description><![CDATA[And good points yourself.I don&#039;t have much of a sense of Guanacaste, but a very little investigation into Puntarenas persuaded me that it&#039;s in about the same pickle as Limón, although the economic mix is different.  I believe the main industries in Puntarenas are tourism, fishing, and manufacturing, none of which provide many opportunities for educated Ticos.  Thus those with or who want educations move elsewhere, although the most common solution suggested for Puntarenas is improved education.I was perhaps unclear in my earlier posts by not saying that by &quot;political correctness&quot; I mean the belief that education is the solution.  I&#039;m pretty sure that education is NOT the solution for depressed regions, and to believe it is has the causal chain backwards.  Economic development of the type that requires good educations goes hand in hand with or actually precedes education.  Although at lower rates than the Central Valley, some people from Limón and Puntarenas do get good educations.  The problem is that those who do move to the Central Valley not only to go to school but also to work afterwards.  The result is a &quot;brain drain&quot; from the poorer regions that helps keep them poor.I lack the prerequisite minority credentials to opine about racism (unless being a gringo counts) but my sense is that racial discrimination against people from Limón is not now their main obstacle.  I drink in a Central Valley Tico bar, which is managed by an enormously competent university student from Limón and I was just last night watching the ballgame with a customer who grew up in Limón.  There doesn&#039;t seem to be the same degree of prejudice against these people that there is against Nicas, who I notice never patronize the bar and only work there in the kitchen.The pattern though seems to be that the ambitious and competent people from Limón move to the Central Valley.  This doesn&#039;t mean that there are no ambitious and competent people left in Limón (or that everyone in the Central Valley is ambitious and competent) but there is I think a pattern.  My inference is that the pattern is mostly explained by the different economic opportunities available in the different regions.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And good points yourself.</p><p>I don&#8217;t have much of a sense of Guanacaste, but a very little investigation into Puntarenas persuaded me that it&#8217;s in about the same pickle as Limón, although the economic mix is different.  I believe the main industries in Puntarenas are tourism, fishing, and manufacturing, none of which provide many opportunities for educated Ticos.  Thus those with or who want educations move elsewhere, although the most common solution suggested for Puntarenas is improved education.</p><p>I was perhaps unclear in my earlier posts by not saying that by &#8220;political correctness&#8221; I mean the belief that education is the solution.  I&#8217;m pretty sure that education is NOT the solution for depressed regions, and to believe it is has the causal chain backwards.  Economic development of the type that requires good educations goes hand in hand with or actually precedes education.  Although at lower rates than the Central Valley, some people from Limón and Puntarenas do get good educations.  The problem is that those who do move to the Central Valley not only to go to school but also to work afterwards.  The result is a &#8220;brain drain&#8221; from the poorer regions that helps keep them poor.</p><p>I lack the prerequisite minority credentials to opine about racism (unless being a gringo counts) but my sense is that racial discrimination against people from Limón is not now their main obstacle.  I drink in a Central Valley Tico bar, which is managed by an enormously competent university student from Limón and I was just last night watching the ballgame with a customer who grew up in Limón.  There doesn&#8217;t seem to be the same degree of prejudice against these people that there is against Nicas, who I notice never patronize the bar and only work there in the kitchen.</p><p>The pattern though seems to be that the ambitious and competent people from Limón move to the Central Valley.  This doesn&#8217;t mean that there are no ambitious and competent people left in Limón (or that everyone in the Central Valley is ambitious and competent) but there is I think a pattern.  My inference is that the pattern is mostly explained by the different economic opportunities available in the different regions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Blamminski</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2013/10/30/costa-ricas-black-population-hindered-less-education-professional-employment/#comment-5855</link> <dc:creator>Blamminski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2013 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=11820#comment-5855</guid> <description><![CDATA[There is a public university in Limon. They offer degrees in Ho&#039;s, burglary, importation and gram measurements.The cops are their instructors.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a public university in Limon. They offer degrees in Ho&#8217;s, burglary, importation and gram measurements.The cops are their instructors.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: expatin paradise</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2013/10/30/costa-ricas-black-population-hindered-less-education-professional-employment/#comment-5849</link> <dc:creator>expatin paradise</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2013 07:26:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=11820#comment-5849</guid> <description><![CDATA[Good points.  Additionally, if blacks do leave Limon, they are socially shunned by light-skinned Ticos who seem to observe an unwritten caste system based on skin color.  According to many central-valley Ticos, even the darker-skinned people of Guanacaste are an inferior breed of people.  I&#039;ve heard people of Guanacaste referred to some as being the equivalent of &quot;Nicas&quot;, and we all know the attitude toward Nicas.  If people from Limon did leave the area, I would not be surprised if they began identifying themselves as Hispanic, rather than as being of African descent, so these statistics may not be entirely accurate.As for education, even public schools are far from free and are probably not affordable for families of meager means, especially if they have many children.  Of course, the big universities in the central valley are a very long bus commute from Limon province but convenient to the majority of the population in the country.  I know many people in the central valley who take university courses because it is so convenient to do so, but I am unaware of any public universities in Limon.  Perhaps Costa Rica should consider something like a system of community colleges for such remote areas if there is no such program.I&#039;d be interested in seeing how other remote areas, such as Guanacaste and the Southern zone, compare to the central valley on these same points.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points.  Additionally, if blacks do leave Limon, they are socially shunned by light-skinned Ticos who seem to observe an unwritten caste system based on skin color.  According to many central-valley Ticos, even the darker-skinned people of Guanacaste are an inferior breed of people.  I&#8217;ve heard people of Guanacaste referred to some as being the equivalent of &#8220;Nicas&#8221;, and we all know the attitude toward Nicas.  If people from Limon did leave the area, I would not be surprised if they began identifying themselves as Hispanic, rather than as being of African descent, so these statistics may not be entirely accurate.</p><p>As for education, even public schools are far from free and are probably not affordable for families of meager means, especially if they have many children.  Of course, the big universities in the central valley are a very long bus commute from Limon province but convenient to the majority of the population in the country.  I know many people in the central valley who take university courses because it is so convenient to do so, but I am unaware of any public universities in Limon.  Perhaps Costa Rica should consider something like a system of community colleges for such remote areas if there is no such program.</p><p>I&#8217;d be interested in seeing how other remote areas, such as Guanacaste and the Southern zone, compare to the central valley on these same points.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BaldheadedFoo</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2013/10/30/costa-ricas-black-population-hindered-less-education-professional-employment/#comment-5847</link> <dc:creator>BaldheadedFoo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=11820#comment-5847</guid> <description><![CDATA[another useless study pointing out the obvious.  is there a daily quota that the media must fulfill on black discrimination stories? we never hear anything about native americans or the indigenous population. does the media not care about them at all?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another useless study pointing out the obvious.  is there a daily quota that the media must fulfill on black discrimination stories? we never hear anything about native americans or the indigenous population. does the media not care about them at all?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ken Morris</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2013/10/30/costa-ricas-black-population-hindered-less-education-professional-employment/#comment-5846</link> <dc:creator>Ken Morris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=11820#comment-5846</guid> <description><![CDATA[So expand a port and a highway and the economic opportunities will flow like milk and honey?  I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d stay in school if my brightest future involved becoming a dockworker or truck driver.Heck, maybe the banana plantations ought to be expanded too.Mostly, I&#039;m confused by our apparent disagreement.  I&#039;m not sure who coined the term &quot;political correctness&quot; and would guess it was a conservative, but I thought conservatives generally favored economic development.  What am I missing here?(Although, if you don&#039;t believe that conservatives favor political correctness too, try calling an evangelical a fundamentalist.)]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So expand a port and a highway and the economic opportunities will flow like milk and honey?  I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d stay in school if my brightest future involved becoming a dockworker or truck driver.</p><p>Heck, maybe the banana plantations ought to be expanded too.</p><p>Mostly, I&#8217;m confused by our apparent disagreement.  I&#8217;m not sure who coined the term &#8220;political correctness&#8221; and would guess it was a conservative, but I thought conservatives generally favored economic development.  What am I missing here?</p><p>(Although, if you don&#8217;t believe that conservatives favor political correctness too, try calling an evangelical a fundamentalist.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: A Dull Roar</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2013/10/30/costa-ricas-black-population-hindered-less-education-professional-employment/#comment-5845</link> <dc:creator>A Dull Roar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=11820#comment-5845</guid> <description><![CDATA[So, Ken, did you miss the stories that they are doubling the size of the port in Moin? And, that the Chinese are funding a half-billion dollar expansion of Hwy 32 between San José and Limón? Yeah, good time to move and miss that economic boom.Yes, many Ticos are very prejudiced against black people here, and Nicaraguans, and Panamanians, ... It wasn&#039;t until after the revolution in &#039;48 that residents of Limón were even allowed to travel further than Turrialba!So, take your &quot;political correctness&quot; slam elsewhere. A term, by they way, invented by a conservative. Oh, and of course &quot;most&quot; development funding is going to happen in the Valle Central which holds half the country&#039;s population, so that&#039;s a big stinky red herring too.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Ken, did you miss the stories that they are doubling the size of the port in Moin? And, that the Chinese are funding a half-billion dollar expansion of Hwy 32 between San José and Limón? Yeah, good time to move and miss that economic boom.</p><p>Yes, many Ticos are very prejudiced against black people here, and Nicaraguans, and Panamanians, &#8230; It wasn&#8217;t until after the revolution in &#8217;48 that residents of Limón were even allowed to travel further than Turrialba!</p><p>So, take your &#8220;political correctness&#8221; slam elsewhere. A term, by they way, invented by a conservative. Oh, and of course &#8220;most&#8221; development funding is going to happen in the Valle Central which holds half the country&#8217;s population, so that&#8217;s a big stinky red herring too.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jim Freeman</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2013/10/30/costa-ricas-black-population-hindered-less-education-professional-employment/#comment-5837</link> <dc:creator>Jim Freeman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=11820#comment-5837</guid> <description><![CDATA[What did you just say? Again I say Ken you are just about the smartest person making comments on most every thing! Where did you learn so much and what country is your country of residence?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did you just say? Again I say Ken you are just about the smartest person making comments on most every thing! Where did you learn so much and what country is your country of residence?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ken Morris</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2013/10/30/costa-ricas-black-population-hindered-less-education-professional-employment/#comment-5832</link> <dc:creator>Ken Morris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=11820#comment-5832</guid> <description><![CDATA[As usual, the report-writers substitute political correctness for thoughtful analysis.There is anti-black prejudice in CR, but the main explanation for the poorer relative success rates for blacks is regional.  Limón, where CR blacks disproportionately live, is an economic backwater, with the ports, banana plantations, and tourism the main industries.  Meanwhile, the government keeps giving economic development handouts to the mostly white Central Valley.The result is that in order to have better economic opportunities, most residents of Limón have to move.  Some of course do, but those who can&#039;t or don&#039;t want to get left behind.And it&#039;s silly to suggest that improved public education is the solution.  When there are no jobs commensurate with a good education, people sensibly lack to motivation to stay in school.  Trying to improve education without developing an economy in which education pays has the linkage exactly backwards.To cry racism and propose education as the cure may make people feel all sanctimonious, but it doesn&#039;t accurately diagnose the problem or provide a solution.Of course, it may be that racism lurks behind the government&#039;s abandonment of economic development in Limón, even as poorer blacks fuel racist attitudes by seeming to confirm them.  Nobody knows what the causal sequence is exactly.  However, it&#039;s irrelevant to the solution, which has to be economic development in Limón.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, the report-writers substitute political correctness for thoughtful analysis.</p><p>There is anti-black prejudice in CR, but the main explanation for the poorer relative success rates for blacks is regional.  Limón, where CR blacks disproportionately live, is an economic backwater, with the ports, banana plantations, and tourism the main industries.  Meanwhile, the government keeps giving economic development handouts to the mostly white Central Valley.</p><p>The result is that in order to have better economic opportunities, most residents of Limón have to move.  Some of course do, but those who can&#8217;t or don&#8217;t want to get left behind.</p><p>And it&#8217;s silly to suggest that improved public education is the solution.  When there are no jobs commensurate with a good education, people sensibly lack to motivation to stay in school.  Trying to improve education without developing an economy in which education pays has the linkage exactly backwards.</p><p>To cry racism and propose education as the cure may make people feel all sanctimonious, but it doesn&#8217;t accurately diagnose the problem or provide a solution.</p><p>Of course, it may be that racism lurks behind the government&#8217;s abandonment of economic development in Limón, even as poorer blacks fuel racist attitudes by seeming to confirm them.  Nobody knows what the causal sequence is exactly.  However, it&#8217;s irrelevant to the solution, which has to be economic development in Limón.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aitor Xaranga</title><link>https://insidecostarica.com/2013/10/30/costa-ricas-black-population-hindered-less-education-professional-employment/#comment-5825</link> <dc:creator>Aitor Xaranga</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:25:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://insidecostarica.com/?p=11820#comment-5825</guid> <description><![CDATA[However...without the African ancestry in our population, we would not have any National Soccer Team to brag about!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However&#8230;without the African ancestry in our population, we would not have any National Soccer Team to brag about!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>